Qt version first impressions

miika.turkia at gmail.com miika.turkia at gmail.com
Tue Aug 27 15:06:39 UTC 2013


My guess for the missing dives is that the default log file is not configured, thus no dives show up. And as far as I know the default file has to be set manually. This is because qt and gtk use different config files.

I am using the qt version currently and am reasonably satisfied. There, however, is a lot of polishing to do before release. Currently usage is too un-intuitive. And e.g. selection dialog for setting the default log file does not work (manually writing the file name works on the gui).

MiikaOn 28.8.2013 4:20 Dirk Hohndel wrote:
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 12:43 -0700, Pablo Wolter wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I installed the new Subsurface version today to try out the Qt look
> and feel. Overall looks great on Mac OS X 10.8
> 
> 
> I followed the interactions in the README file and found the
> pre-requisite of installing asciidoc is not yet added. I remembered
> from reading about it in the list. Not hard to figure out too but end
> users might not know that much?

asciidoc is not needed. We just need to add that to the README. The
error is annoying - maybe some Makefile magic to make it not try
(instead of fail) if asciidoc isn't there.

> Also another thing that is really annoying, it deleted all my dives
> from the previous version without any warning. It should be added a
> data preservation mechanism. I understand this is the version to try
> but anyway … I didn't know how to have the two at the same time ….

It what??? It certainly shouldn't do that. I use the two together all
the time. Can you explain in more detail what happened?

> Anyway, I tried a few things.
> 
> 
> 1- Download a dive from my Pretel. Subsurface just can't see the
> Pretel whereas MacDive downloaded the dive without any trouble. I have
> successfully installed both libdivecomputer and subsurface from
> sources.

The Petrel is a Bluetooth dive computer. So the process is a little more
complicated (and I am not 100% sure this has been tested with the Qt
version on a Mac, yet).

> 2- Try to import files … clicker the option under File and the
> application crashed.

I tried this just last week and it worked fine for me. Again, can you
give more details how one could reproduce that?

> 3- Try to add a dive. I just added the Location and Buddy. Did not
> realized you have to go to other tabs to add more info, clicked Save
> and now unable to edit that dive. Not intuitive. Why not put all the
> related information of the dive into one window? How can I edit that
> dive without reading the manual? In my opinion that should be very
> intuitive.

What happens when you try to edit the dive?

> 4- After being unable to edit the dive I clicked Open … don't know for
> what it is but the application crashed again.

It's to open a new file.

But all the issues you report make me very suspicious that there's
something else going on - are you getting odd dbus warnings at start?

> 5- Opened Subsurface again and my recently added dive wasn't there …
> the application looks like as when just installed.

Well - it sounds like it crashed before you had a chance to save the
file...

> I think I'm going to stop here …. this is what happens I guess when
> you want to try the latest stuff ….

No, it shouldn't be THAT bad. Yes, there are a few rough edges, still,
but I have used the current Subsurface on my last dive trip and things
worked fairly well. So there's something in your build that is causing
this.

Henrik, any ideas?

> Please take all this as constructive as my intention is. Sadly I'm not
> a developer but want this software a lot … 

This is indeed helpful. I'd rather catch oddities like this now than
after we release it. So your trials are much appreciated!

> I'm itching to see the new dive planner because the previous (GTK
> version) was just not intuitive and I never was able to make it work.

Tomaz will love to hear that :-)

/D


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