Qt version first impressions

Tue Aug 27 19:42:24 UTC 2013

I was able to load my dives, manually as you described.

Let me tell you … I love the Information window … amazing! 

I love the fact that it gets displayed automatically when you scroll over the graph, impressive!

I loved more the fact that shows you the calculated ceiling, deco stops on my tech dives and partial pressures (will be better to put ATM as the units?).

What I found confusing though, even as I know about M-values, GF and tissue load is the different "Tissue X min: Y ft" meaning on the Information window. Will be better to have a separate window with the different tissue states that varies as you scroll over it? And that will be displayed only in decompression dives as an option that the user opens/selects?

This way if you want to analyze the different compartments/tissue load/saturation you will have to opt for that and leave the more meaningful or standard information in the "Information" window.

Probably another good addition will be to have an option to display all the remaining decompression stops in a separate displayable window as an option as well, not automatically displayed as the Information window?

Some ideas I'll love to see on my dives to "see" what went in a single view.

I'll open this as enhancement requests in trac.

I just want to see the planner …. boy it will look really good!

On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:06 PM, miika.turkia at gmail.com wrote:

> My guess for the missing dives is that the default log file is not configured, thus no dives show up. And as far as I know the default file has to be set manually. This is because qt and gtk use different config files.
> 
> I am using the qt version currently and am reasonably satisfied. There, however, is a lot of polishing to do before release. Currently usage is too un-intuitive. And e.g. selection dialog for setting the default log file does not work (manually writing the file name works on the gui).
> 
> MiikaOn 28.8.2013 4:20 Dirk Hohndel wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 12:43 -0700, Pablo Wolter wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> I installed the new Subsurface version today to try out the Qt look
>> and feel. Overall looks great on Mac OS X 10.8
>> 
>> 
>> I followed the interactions in the README file and found the
>> pre-requisite of installing asciidoc is not yet added. I remembered
>> from reading about it in the list. Not hard to figure out too but end
>> users might not know that much?
> 
> asciidoc is not needed. We just need to add that to the README. The
> error is annoying - maybe some Makefile magic to make it not try
> (instead of fail) if asciidoc isn't there.
> 
>> Also another thing that is really annoying, it deleted all my dives
>> from the previous version without any warning. It should be added a
>> data preservation mechanism. I understand this is the version to try
>> but anyway … I didn't know how to have the two at the same time ….
> 
> It what??? It certainly shouldn't do that. I use the two together all
> the time. Can you explain in more detail what happened?
> 
>> Anyway, I tried a few things.
>> 
>> 
>> 1- Download a dive from my Pretel. Subsurface just can't see the
>> Pretel whereas MacDive downloaded the dive without any trouble. I have
>> successfully installed both libdivecomputer and subsurface from
>> sources.
> 
> The Petrel is a Bluetooth dive computer. So the process is a little more
> complicated (and I am not 100% sure this has been tested with the Qt
> version on a Mac, yet).
> 
>> 2- Try to import files … clicker the option under File and the
>> application crashed.
> 
> I tried this just last week and it worked fine for me. Again, can you
> give more details how one could reproduce that?
> 
>> 3- Try to add a dive. I just added the Location and Buddy. Did not
>> realized you have to go to other tabs to add more info, clicked Save
>> and now unable to edit that dive. Not intuitive. Why not put all the
>> related information of the dive into one window? How can I edit that
>> dive without reading the manual? In my opinion that should be very
>> intuitive.
> 
> What happens when you try to edit the dive?
> 
>> 4- After being unable to edit the dive I clicked Open … don't know for
>> what it is but the application crashed again.
> 
> It's to open a new file.
> 
> But all the issues you report make me very suspicious that there's
> something else going on - are you getting odd dbus warnings at start?
> 
>> 5- Opened Subsurface again and my recently added dive wasn't there …
>> the application looks like as when just installed.
> 
> Well - it sounds like it crashed before you had a chance to save the
> file...
> 
>> I think I'm going to stop here …. this is what happens I guess when
>> you want to try the latest stuff ….
> 
> No, it shouldn't be THAT bad. Yes, there are a few rough edges, still,
> but I have used the current Subsurface on my last dive trip and things
> worked fairly well. So there's something in your build that is causing
> this.
> 
> Henrik, any ideas?
> 
>> Please take all this as constructive as my intention is. Sadly I'm not
>> a developer but want this software a lot …
> 
> This is indeed helpful. I'd rather catch oddities like this now than
> after we release it. So your trials are much appreciated!
> 
>> I'm itching to see the new dive planner because the previous (GTK
>> version) was just not intuitive and I never was able to make it work.
> 
> Tomaz will love to hear that :-)
> 
> /D
> 
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Saludos,

Pablo Wolter
pwolter at gmail.com