Bug#701536: RM: subsurface -- RoQA; unmaintained package, maintainer MIA

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaubitz at physik.fu-berlin.de
Sun Mar 3 13:41:33 PST 2013


On 03/03/2013 10:35 PM, Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Mar 2013, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>>
>> The license issue was just an example (hence the braces). The reasoning is
>> that the Debian packaging is supposed to be independent of upstream,
>> especially since we cannot always follow upstream, during a freeze, for
>> example.
>> Assume we have version 3.0 in Debian and upstream has 3.5 and we're frozen.
>> During the freeze, someone discovers a nasty bug in subsurface which is
>> considered RC (release critical) in Debian, but gets fixed in 3.5.1 upstream.
>
> What about upstream keeping stuff on release branches (3.0, 3.0.2, 3.5,
> and so on)?  And doing that sort of backporting patches themselfs?  How
> much would that help with packaging?

Yes, but that would always mean Debian somehow depends on upstream which 
is not really a desired situation. As I said, we cannot always keep up 
with upstream for various reasons. Debian-specific changes through 
patches are not uncommon and it doesn't always make sense to adopt the 
changes upstream.

Debian packaging should only be part of the upstream repository if the 
package is Debian-native, e.g. it has its origin in Debian. Like dpkg or 
apt, for example. You can recognize these packages from the missing -n 
(n being a natural numner) in the version number.

>> I am aware that you could probably avoid this problem with branches, but I
>> think it would just make things difficult. Debian cannot simply be up-to-date
>> with upstream and thus upstream shouldn't maintain the Debian-specific part.
>
> Alright.  Package maintenence stuff separated from upstream source stuff.
> Did I get that right?

I'd recommend that, yes.

As for the current situation, I'd recommend getting the current upstream 
version of subsurface ready for Debian and have it uploaded into 
experimental.

Adrian

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