Bug#701536: RM: subsurface -- RoQA; unmaintained package, maintainer MIA

Dirk Hohndel dirk at hohndel.org
Mon Mar 4 01:27:09 PST 2013


On Mar 4, 2013, at 1:26 AM, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:

> 
> On 04/03/2013 09:24, Robert C. Helling wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Mar 2013, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> 
>>> On 03/03/2013 10:35 PM, Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 3 Mar 2013, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The license issue was just an example (hence the braces). The
>>>>> reasoning is
>>>>> that the Debian packaging is supposed to be independent of upstream,
>>>>> especially since we cannot always follow upstream, during a freeze, for
>>>>> example.
>>>>> Assume we have version 3.0 in Debian and upstream has 3.5 and we're
>>>>> frozen.
>>>>> During the freeze, someone discovers a nasty bug in subsurface which is
>>>>> considered RC (release critical) in Debian, but gets fixed in 3.5.1
>>>>> upstream.
>>>> 
>>>> What about upstream keeping stuff on release branches (3.0, 3.0.2, 3.5,
>>>> and so on)?  And doing that sort of backporting patches themselfs?  How
>>>> much would that help with packaging?
>>> 
>>> Yes, but that would always mean Debian somehow depends on upstream
>>> which is not really a desired situation. As I said, we cannot always
>>> keep up with upstream for various reasons. Debian-specific changes
>>> through patches are not uncommon and it doesn't always make sense to
>>> adopt the changes upstream.
>> 
>> Am I right to state that for subsurface currently it is a primary goal
>> to have some .deb package that could be hosted on the subsurface web
>> server and which more or less tracks our releases? Getting included in
>> the Debian distribution with not too old versions is also nice but more
>> important on an intermediate time scale. I.e. what is currently needed
>> is some tool-chain which turns (semi-automatically, that is, usable by a
>> non-Debina-guru) sources that are not too different from the current
>> state into a distributable .deb.
> In our context, we are focusing on Debian (and Ubuntu) themself. That
> means that, we are trying to propose the version matching the
> dependencies in the archive.
> However, if there is a need, we can always provide backports.
> 
> By the way, I started to work on the packaging. I updated
> libdivecomputer and I am working on subsurface.

While 3.0.2 has not been announced, yet (give me an hour), the sources are already at
http://subsurface.hohndel.org/downloads/subsurface-3.0.2.tgz

/D
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