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Pedro Neves
nevesdiver at gmail.com
Tue May 21 09:28:53 PDT 2013
Hi:
On 2013-05-21 17:03, Dirk Hohndel wrote:
> Really? http://subsurface.hohndel.org/bugtracker/ ;-)
Ooops. My bad ;-)
> why delete them? Just curious.
Just in case one doesn't need a specific tag. For instance, I'll never
use the "deep" (how deep is deep anyway...?) or "pool" (I don't log pool
dives) tags...
> Certainly something we can investigate. Please file a ticket :-)
Done...
> Here's my analysis. It took us a solid month of work by multiple people
> to get the current implementation in place. We've had several lengthy
> discussions with people who were complaining about subtleties that are
> different from the way things are done in dive computers (e.g., dive
> computer take the ascent into account when calculating ceilings, dive
> computers often let you exit the water before mathematically you should
> be able to - in one example, once the ceiling is less than 20cm it lets
> you exit, which with some slow tissues can make a several minute
> difference in final deco stop). Adding more algorithms will take more
> development time from developers who could work on things that are
> interesting to a larger audience. I believe there are already a couple
> of tools out there that allow experimentation with different models.
>
> Frankly for the target audience of Subsurface my guess is that fewer
> than 1% of them are interested in this. While >50% might be interested
> in, say, better handling of tags. Or the ability to associate pictures
> that you took during a dive with the dive profile.
>
> So I'm much more likely to encourage that.
I accept that.
>> Dive analysis:
> Again - how many of our users will really care about this. You and...?
> I do a bit of technical diving and I cannot envision myself looking at
> that. But then maybe I'm wrong and there are thousands of people who
> don't use Subsurface because it is missing this one feature :-)
No worries. I can accept your view, although my interest on this
analysis has nothing to do with technical diving. I bet that not having
this feature isn't preventing anyone from using Subsurface, but I just
thought that it would be a nice (and useful) feature to have. Also,
since we already calculate the deco ceiling, I would think that doing
this analysis would not be overly complex, or am I missing anything?
> Yes, the readme was uploaded as an experiment and we (I) couldn't quite
> figure out how to make that useful to the user, so I locked the
> translation so translators wouldn't spend unnecessary time on it :-(
>
> I assume that I'll make a 3.1.1 release in a few weeks and I will of
> course pull your Portuguese translation for that. Thank you so much.
>
> Would you be interested in helping to translate the website as well?
I guess I could do it, but since we already have the website in
Brazilian Portuguese, I don't quite see the point of having it also in
"European" portuguese. I'd prefer spending time working on the
documentation...
> Yes. This has been requested by a few people and can even be extended to
> include maintenance reminders (especially important for rebreather
> divers). So that's definitely something that we should investigate.
Cool. Let me know if I can help with anything.
>
> Thanks for all the input and help!
No worries. It is you guys that I need to thank for all your work. I'll
be more than happy to give my small contributions to this project.
Cheers:
Pedro
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