Tank pressure plots for CCRs
Dirk Hohndel
dirk at hohndel.org
Mon Jan 6 14:15:50 UTC 2014
On Mon, 2014-01-06 at 20:01 -0200, Rodrigo Severo wrote:
>
> One caveat - Subsurface has always been open to cater to
> specific
> subsets of the user base, but we have a hard rule that we
> cater to the
> "typical recreational diver" first. So we will not make
> changes that
> make Subsurface less useful for recreational OC divers just
> because the
> few suicidal people who dive rebreathers think that's what
> they need.
>
>
> I see you don't trust rebreathers very much ;)
We already lost one of our developers to rebreathers. Or to quote one of
my best friends in the dive industry "diving on a rebreather the
question is not if you die, but when".
> But I don't see why these changes would make Subsurface any less
> useful for recreational OC divers. As I mentioned the extra step of
> defining a tank pressure segment as OC, CCR O2 or CCR diluent should
> be optional with the default being OC obviously. AFAICT there would be
> no difference here for recreational OC divers.
I just wanted to make sure this is understood upfront. People get
carried away with making Subsurface do exactly what THEY want, not
realizing what most other people need.
> > Implementing item 1 could also have the positive side effect
> of fixing
> > the gaps that consecutive tank pressure plots for the same
> tank
> > present. The last pressure of a tank pressure line is always
> higher
> > than the first pressure of the next line for the same tank.
> They
> > should be exactly the same. These gaps exist now with the
> current code
> > and also with my yet not approved nor refused patch
> "Discontinuity and
> > stall on tank pressure interpolated lines". I would never
> suggest that
> > a change so big as item 1 implies be done just because of
> these gaps
> > but I think it would be great to fix this too.
>
>
> Actually, there is no such thing as "it should be the same".
> Pressure
> data can fluctuate for many reasons and it's entirely possible
> that
> pressure has gone up because the diver crossed a thermocline.
> Or
> pressure could have gone down because of leakage.
>
> Since pressure data is NOT continuous but assembled from
> discrete
> samples there can and will be sudden changes.
>
>
> You are completely right when we have discrete samples for the dive.
>
>
> I was talking about interpolated tank pressure plots, like when we
> have only the start and end tank pressures for the whole dive. In this
> situation the last pressure of a tank pressure line should be exactly
> the same as the first pressure of the next line for the same tank.
> There is no reason for us to interpolate otherwise. In fact both
> current code and my patch do the right thing in this aspect. It just
> isn't plotted correctly because current code only plots one tank
> pressure point per sample.
That's something we should be able to address in the new profile code.
/D
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