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Davide DB dbdavide at gmail.com
Mon Jul 14 05:15:18 PDT 2014


Hi Miika,

Thank you for the reply but despite of the fact that everybody continue
repeating me that I can not delete a cylinder that is in use the logic
behind the cylinder is obscure to me.
I tried several times with no luck.

>From an end user POV:

I haven't single gas dives. Imagine I have a dive with D8,5 filled with
30/30 and Al40 with 100%.

#1 I download a dive and if I have no default bottle, that equipment tab is
not empty, it contains a unknown type bottle.
#2 I download a dive and if I have a default bottle, that equipment tab is
filled with that.

In the case #1 instead to modify the "unkonwn" cylinder, I add that two
cylinders: D8,5 & Al40.
After this I cannot delete anymore the "unknown" cylinder because it's in
use.
By who?
I tried to add a gas switch to 100% but











2014-07-14 13:31 GMT+02:00 Miika Turkia <miika.turkia at gmail.com>:

> You can not delete a cylinder that is in use. As you said, you used 21/35
> and 50%, these both cylinders are shown on the equipment properly as they
> were used during the dive.
>
> However, the dive info tab is buggy. There is clearly a bug in there when
> diving with multiple cylinders and multiple dive computers. The 21/35 is
> missing from there.
>
> To test this, I deleted manually the second dive computer from the XML
> file and now the dive info tab shows gas consumption for both gases as
> shown in the attached screenshot. I am still wondering if this is correct
> as the SAC is unbelievable low, but it does reflect to the start and end
> pressures shown on equipment tab.
>
> miika
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Davide DB <dbdavide at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dirk,
>> Did you check the xml I sent?
>>
>> Again, how I can remove a bottle from the bottle panel?
>> Should I add a fake gas change? As end user this part It's really a
>> nightmare and I don't get useful info from the manual.
>>
>>
>> 2014-07-10 17:10 GMT+02:00 Davide DB <dbdavide at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi Dirk,
>>>
>>> I think I understood: while I was copying the entire dive I realized
>>> this dive has two profiles with two computers in it.
>>> Very strange. The only way I could imagine this mix is:
>>> I imported this dive from my buddy computer.
>>> Later I download other dives from my suunto and I had on it the same
>>> dive...
>>>
>>> Attached the xml file and two screenshot of what I see. Basically I used
>>> a 21/35 and 50% for deco but on the dive info I see only the EAN50 but I
>>> see 0 liter for the phantom 21/35.
>>>
>>> [image: Immagine in linea 1]
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Immagine in linea 2]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-07-10 16:57 GMT+02:00 Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org>:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:08:32PM +0200, Davide DB wrote:
>>>> > I downgraded to 4.1 and gas mix is still not there.
>>>> > I took some backups but again gas mix for this dive is still not
>>>> there.
>>>> >
>>>> > I tried to compare xml files but I d not see obvious
>>>> differences/errors.
>>>> > Any idea why I'm getting this?
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you in advance.
>>>>
>>>> I think I got lost in this somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> Can you attach the XML for one dive that shows the problem. Describe
>>>> what
>>>> you expect to see (and why) and what you are seeing.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> /D
>>>>
>>>> > 2014-07-09 16:16 GMT+02:00 Davide DB <dbdavide at gmail.com>:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Images?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I got backups.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > This is what I see on this dive:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > two tanks and gas used. One gas switch but a phantom gas with no
>>>> name e
>>>> > > zero gas used.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 2014-07-09 16:02 GMT+02:00 Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org>:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 04:24:36PM +0300, Miika Turkia wrote:
>>>> > >> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Davide DB <dbdavide at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > > Can I downgrade from 4.1.379 to official 4.1 without braking my
>>>> > >> logbook?
>>>> > >> > > I just realized that some dives have correct bottle info saved
>>>> but
>>>> > >> CAS and
>>>> > >> > > gas used doesn't appear on the information panel.
>>>> > >> > >
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > Should work fine. Of course, when using development versions,
>>>> you should
>>>> > >> > keep a backup (or version control) of your log file. But I have
>>>> not
>>>> > >> noticed
>>>> > >> > any problems when mixing use of 4.1 and devel versions.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Picture support has changed (but Subsurface ignores tags it doesn't
>>>> > >> understand). So if you stored pictures with the development
>>>> version, you
>>>> > >> won't see them in 4.1 and after storing the file again with 4.1
>>>> they will
>>>> > >> be lost.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> In general I can only stress what Miika said - make backups BEFORE
>>>> using
>>>> > >> development versions and have a close eye on changes to the XML
>>>> file. We
>>>> > >> have been known to seriously break things and to lose information
>>>> in dive
>>>> > >> files. We obviously try no to, but it does happen.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> /D
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > Davide
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Davide
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Davide
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Davide
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