Planner issues #2

[Joakim Bygdell]

On 30 May 2014, at 16:09, Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org> wrote:

> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 02:38:02PM +0200, Robert Helling wrote:
>> 
>> I will look at the problem with the last stop depth later when I have
>> more time.
> 
> More time. What a concept. I guess I could completely give up on sleep...
> 
>> Just a quick comment:
>> 
>>> NOTE. These values are from the planner window, not the saved plan.
>>> Also the transition times are shown in the final deco table, why not show them while in planner as well.
>> 
>> I agree the two representations differ, but my aim was actually to
>> change the saved plan rather than the table. I actively suppressed the
>> information about transition times (and also waypoints where only the
>> ascend speed changes) as otherwise the table would get much longer and
>> already now you have to scroll far too early. The rationale was to
>> provide only the really useful information with the least clutter.
> 
> I have been wondering aloud about this before. In planner mode, we don't
> use the bottom two panes. That is so wasteful. Should we change that?
> Move the table of waypoints in the place of the dive list? Would that
> help?

That might be a big improvement.
Replacing the dive list with the waypoint table allows the user to see how the finished plan will look before it is saved,
while at the same time only showing the user editable parts in the “Dive Planner Points” box prevents unnecessary scrolling.

> 
>> The plan in the dive notes is supposed to be changed to a way that it
>> can directly be copied to wet notes (ideally printed) to take with you
>> in the water. There you want to only have the essential information and
>> to me it seems this is only the list of runtimes where you leave the
>> stops and when to change gas.
> 
> Teaching (well, dive-mastering) tech classes I have learned that this
> appears to be deeply personal and that preferences vary widely. I want as
> little information written down as I can get away with (basically segment
> times, gas changes, stops), while others were trying to put little
> novellas in their notes...
> 
>> But I am open to be convinced otherwise. We could also make that a user preference.
> 
> I keep saying this. More options usually means more problems. More things
> to test, more UI clutter, more things that can go wrong. I'm not saying
> "absolutely not" - I'm just raising a warning flag.

Move it to the preferences?
As the user probably will use the default values or specify them on their own and not jump between the variants.

> 
> 
> /D

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