Subsurface Statistics Panel

[Davide DB]

Some more wireframes for DDS (depth Duration and SAC)

Depth

http://i.imgur.com/6d1eF4N.png

Duration

http://i.imgur.com/QQV3qAX.png

SAC

http://i.imgur.com/dLjyt9K.png

A couple of dumb pie charts for DC model and dive type:

http://i.imgur.com/kR3Rd9d.png

http://i.imgur.com/q342io0.png


Bye


On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Davide DB <dbdavide at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:13 PM, Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> It is missing? I don't think so. At least I can see it in Subsurface 4.4
>> Did you check?
>>
>
> My fault :)
> I was looking too much to other logbooks and I miss it!
>
>> > In the last weeks I tested several desktop and online logbooks. When it
>> > comes to statistics most of them have an "All you can eat" approach
>> > displaying tons of charts although only few of them being meaningful.
>> > Here I selected those I find more useful (IMHO). A rose is a rose hence
>> > it's difficult to be original on some of them.
>>
>> The biggest problem to me is that more is not always better. Every new
>> tab, every new graph, every new statistic adds more code, more bugs, more
>> testing...
>>
>
> I agree with you
>
>
>
>>
>> > *Overall/General/Outline*
>> >
>> > http://i.imgur.com/sDGavon.png
>> >
>> > Nearly all logbooks have a Overall view giving general statistics on the
>> > logbook owner so we can't be different on this :)
>>
>> Actually, yes we can, but I'll go along with you...
>>
>> > Actually it's similar to the current "stats" tab.
>> > I did not try to layout labels right now. It's just a list of what we
>> > could
>> > have here:
>> >
>> >    - Num of dives (where/when)
>> >    - Total  time diving (where/when)
>> >    - Max / Min duration (where/when)
>> >    - Max / Min depth (where/when)
>> >    - Max / Min temperature (where/when)
>>
>> What does "where/when" mean in all of those?
>
>
> e.g.
>
> 574 dives - latest: Barracuda Point on 15/01/2015
>
> Max dive runtime at Block Island on 13/07/2012
> Min dive runtime at Frozen Reeff on 13/07/2010
>
> And so on.
> Where/when on total time diving is a copy&paste error
>
>
>>
>> >    - Most dove spot/location
>> >    - Average depth & average time
>>
>> Define average depth, please. Is this the mean depth of all the dives, or
>> the mean of the max depths of all the dives? We've had this confusion
>> before...
>
>
> I guess  mean depth of all the dives.
>
>
>>
>>
>> >    - How many trips
>> >    - Most used tank
>> >    -
>> >    - Total amount of gas used:
>> >       - Air: xxx
>> >       - He: yyy
>> >       - O2: zzz
>> >
>> > Based on space available we could use the lowest part of this panel view
>> > to
>> > draw a chart...(the time goes by chart described later)
>>
>> I think this is already a ton of information... and I worry about text
>> only information as we have it on the stats tab. This often results in a
>> very hard to absorb UI. So that's why I said above "we can decide not to
>> have this 'overview'".
>
>
>
> I agree that mixing  text info and a chart is not the best solution.
> This is the classic entry point for statistics. It's like a scuba CV with
> outline data.
> All logbooks desktop/online have something like this and some divers use
> this like a badge.
> This outline screen would be the best candidate for social network
> integration or even  a front-page of html export.
>
> Please do not touch the Anton's overall gas info of which I'm particulary
> fond of :)
>
>
>> >
>> > *Map View*
>> >
>> > http://i.imgur.com/o8IP4Ho.png
>> >
>> >
>> > I took this idea form an online logbook (diveaboard.com) and I saw this
>> > bubbles in other google maps based projects. (a local newspaper here in
>> > Italy use the same bubbles to display news location).
>> > Basically it gives you the concentration of your dives. Each color
>> > bubble
>> > indicate/aggregates a number-of-dives range. I do not know if this is
>> > possible with Marble/Openstreetmap.
>> > Bubbles scales according to the map zoom. I can give you more examples
>> > if
>> > you are interested.
>>
>> This is a very cool visualization. I really like it. Definitely want this
>> one.
>>
>> > Once you zoom-in after a certain scale you get a single dive spot view
>> > like
>> > our current Marble map.
>>
>> Yes!
>>
>> > We are not editing dives here so it would be nice that once I hoover on
>> > a
>> > given dive spot I get a small box with main dive details.
>>
>> What happens if there are many dives at that spot?
>
>
> Try for yourself:
>
> http://www.diveboard.com/explore
>
> I think they have a fixd zoom setting where they show the real data on the
> map layer.
>
> THis is a news site:
>
> http://roma.repubblica.it/static/rep-locali/rep-roma/mappa-notizie/
>
> Maybe it is a google map api
>
>
>>
>> > *Time goes by view*
>> >
>> > http://i.imgur.com/ybpmZ2e.png
>> >
>> > Despite of the funny name I gave it this is maybe the most classical
>> > statistic view: number of dives through the time.
>> >
>> > I saw many logbooks wasting screens using two separate graphs for months
>> > and years.
>> >
>> > I would like having just one chart which mimics sparklines charts: micro
>> > columns/bar charts.
>> > I show two examples of what I mean. (one is the Soundcloud chart).
>> >
>> > Our chart would have:
>> >
>> > - Each mont is one bar., one year 12 bars
>> > - Months are grouped by year using alternate colors: (two shades of
>> > gray)
>> > 12 months light gray and 12 months dark gray.
>> > - Max/Min values (month with most/least dives and year with most/least
>> > dives) are indicated by special colors as in the example.
>> > - We could give extra info just hoovering on bars and having a info box
>> > like the current dive profile.
>>
>> WOW. That's a lot of work to implement. And except for people who dive
>> every week... who would really get much out of this? Maybe I'm mis-judging
>> our average user, but I'm not convinced this is all that interesting and
>> it would be a lot, lot, lot of work and a lot of bug fixing and what not.
>
>
> Ok. That was my try to have a lot of info in one place.
> I will try to sketch it.
> divelogs.de and diving log have separate charts for this
>
>
>>
>>
>> > - Some of overall stats tab could be moved here and indicated by a bar
>> > of a
>> > special color.
>> > - This chart could be moved in the overall tab lowest position.
>> >
>> > *DDS view (Depth, Duration, SAC)*
>> >
>> > http://i.imgur.com/7uXP6qS.png
>> >
>> > Most of logbooks use have 5 charts (at least) for this view plotting
>> > depth
>> > and duration both on x and y-axis...
>> >
>> > IMHO having depth and duration on y-axis is completely meaningless while
>> > having them on x-axis is useful.
>> >
>> > SAC is the only stats is worth having on x-axis showing evoluton os gas
>> > consumption through experience.
>> >
>> > I would like having just one chart. On the wireframe I draw two charts
>> > just
>> > to show the difference on X-Y axis.
>>
>> I'd like to see more example pictures of what you want here... this has
>> often been requested, and certainly the depth and duration charts seem
>> obvious and easy to do.
>>
>
> Ok, I'll try
>
>
>>
>> > *Pie view*
>> >
>> > http://i.imgur.com/D0fAH8I.png
>> >
>> > Whatever can be represented by a pie chart should go here.
>> > I found:
>> >
>> >    - Deco/Curve
>> >    - Ripetitive dive Y/n
>> >    - Sea/Fresh water dive
>> >    - OC/CCR/PSCR/Free dive
>> >    - DC Model
>> >    - Countries
>> >
>>
>> Umm, I need a lot more examples to understand what this is supposed to be.
>> What does "Deco/Curve" mean? A lot of these seem like "fluff". I don't
>> mean this in a bad way, I just think that the incremental use vs.
>> incremental effort don't look promising.
>
>
> A pie chart showing percentage of "new dives" against repetitive dives
> You dive with 5 DC but what is the percentage of use of all your dc in you
> career?
>
> I agree with your concerns (I'm not a developer :) )
> Actually the whole statistics concept applied to our diving log is somewhat
> a "fluff".
> It's like a selfie.
> An hedonistic approach to click and see how I'm good at mixed with
> anal-retentive thinking :)
> I think that people who dive only in two/three trips in a year don't log
> their dives but maybe I'm wrong.
> If you do not dive often why you should spend/wasting your time compiling
> logbooks?
> I saw that a lot of technical divers los their dives, specially reb divers.
> My buddies uploaded their dives to divelogs just to see their statistics.
>
> Would be nice having a better understanding of the average dive-logger joe
> :)
>
>
>>
>> > Based on filter selection some statistics charts could be impossible to
>> > calculate or display.
>> > UI should take care to disable that views that lacks of meaning.
>>
>> Can you give examples?
>
>
>
> I was not clear, sorry. I meant that if you filter only few or even one
> dive, what do you pretend to see?
>
> Bye
>
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