More Location Fixes.

Tomaz Canabrava tcanabrava at kde.org
Tue Jul 14 13:19:19 PDT 2015


On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Linus Torvalds <
torvalds at linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org> wrote:
> >
> > If you pick a dive site from the list that is CLEARLY marked as having a
> > GPS location and for most normal users will even be CLEARLY marked with
> > taxonomy data. So there is nothing confusing here. You picked a site with
> > GPS data. You got that GPS data.
>
> Dirk, YOU are the one not reading things.
>
> > If you think "I have GPS data from the phone, I just can't upload that
> > right now" and "the site was Blue Corner" then you type in Blue Corner
> and
> > do NOT pick the pre-existing site. You just type it in and accept that
> > name. You get a new site with that name and no GPS data. You download the
> > GPS from the webservice when you have internet and it does exactly what
> > you wanted it to do.
> >
> > Easy, intuitive, obvious.
>
> Not intuitive at all. We went through this already. Thats' what we had
> in Hawaii, and it sucked.
>
> If I start writing "Blu" and it auto-completes to "Blue Corner", then
> an interface that says "but you mustn't choose that name, because that
> will screw up your GPS coordinates" is a horrible interface.
>

uh... that's not what's happening - it will not screw up your gps
coordinates.


>
> It sure as hell is not intuitive.
>
> Seriously, Dirk. We *had* that interface. I used it. I wasn't the only
> one confused by it. See the whole previous discussion about it, where
> Miika did the exact same thing.
>

linus - the thing you tested wasn't what we have today ( and I *think* I
never made it fully work ), so no - we didn't had this interface.


> You cannot call ti "intuitive" if two people independently made the
> mistake of picking the textual auto-complete, and were surprised when
> it screwed up the data.
>
> So my suggestion was that the first entry in the list NEVER ADD GPS
> LOCATION.
>
> Even if all the *divesites* with that name have GPS location.
>
> Exactly so that you *can* auto-complete the name, without screwing up
> GPS. Because I thought we already agreed that that was a requirement.
>
> Your argument is crap, and let me quote it:
>

I'm confused ( really ). if you Write the "Blue Corner" without clicking on
the list it will create a dive site without gps data, and it seems that's
what you are saying is the same thing we have.


>
> > Picking Blue Corner but not getting the GPS location is a ridiculous idea
>
> NO IT IS NOT!
>
> I know have new GPS location. I want to pick "Blue Corner" without
> getting the new GPS locations screwed up. Calling that thing a
> "ridiculous idea" is wrong. It's not ridiculous, it's *obvious*. I may
> have old GPS information. Or, it can be a big dive site with the same
> name but different GPS information (my "Turtle Reef" example).
>
> Pick a slightly longer name just to drive the concept home. Pick
> something that isn't as easy to type.
>
> I want to auto-complete the *name* of the dive site, not get GPS data
> that screws things up.
>

Linus - this is simple to add - in a way that will be easy to auto complete
the name picking it in the list and not screwing up the location data OR to
use an already created location if the user chooses so. this would work for
you? :
- First entry of the Complete Popup should *always* only complete without
gettting any gps information
- Other entries would complete gps information ( remember that the new list
is very different from the old one and it shows the country / place /
coords ) and if user selects those it would set the dive site instead of
creating a new one.


> That is _not_ ridiculous, and I don't understand how you can even
> claim it is. It's how things used to work, and they worked very well
> indeed. Right now the dive site model has actually made things
> *worse*.
>
>                   Linus
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