More Location Fixes.

Rick Walsh rickmwalsh at gmail.com
Tue Jul 14 15:14:05 PDT 2015


Good morning,

On 15 Jul 2015 7:11 am, "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds at linux-foundation.org>
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Tomaz Canabrava <tcanabrava at kde.org>
wrote:
> >
> >> If I start writing "Blu" and it auto-completes to "Blue Corner", then
> >> an interface that says "but you mustn't choose that name, because that
> >> will screw up your GPS coordinates" is a horrible interface.
> >
> > uh... that's not what's happening - it will not screw up your gps
> > coordinates.
>
> Note that "I have no GPS, because I haven't done the companion app
> sync yet, because I have no internet" can also be important. Because
> if that fills in GPS information, then that means that my _future_
> sync with the companion app will not fill in the GPS data any more.
>
> See? This is what I was talking about when I said that behavior should
> not depend on whether you have synced with the companion app before or
> after editing the dive location name. Because there just isn't one
> correct case.
>
> Yes, sometimes you want GPS data, because you didn't even have a
> companion app running, or you just decide that "yeah, I have a good
> enough fix from before".
>
> And sometimes you _don't_ want GPS data, even if you don't have any
> yet, because you want to fill it later.
>
> > I'm confused ( really ). if you Write the "Blue Corner" without
clicking on
> > the list it will create a dive site without gps data, and it seems
that's
> > what you are saying is the same thing we have.
>
> But I do actually want the name expansion, not the "type it out".
>
> I don't want to write the whole name if I already have it.
>
> For example, the name might not be "Blue Hole". It could be "Laje Dois
> Irmâos, Fernando de Noronha, Brazil". Things with special characters
> that I figured out after-the-fact, and can't necessarily even type
> with my keyboard without looking up the keyboard map (just out of
> curiosity, I checked: Right-Alt+6 to get a dead ^, followed by 'a'.
> Although apparently it *should* have been 'ã' - Shift-RightAlt-Tidle +
> 'a' on my keyboard).
>
> Do you really want em to type it out, just because I know I don't want
> GPS information, because I'm going to get the GPS info from the
> companion app when the internet starts working again? Fernando de
> Noronha did have intenet, but it was kind of flaky. Some other places
> have been even worse.
>
> So maybe I already have the dive site name, but I do *not* have GPS
> location, and I don't *want* GPS location (because I know it I have
> better info on my phone, or one of those "Turtle Reef is 20 miles of
> west Maui coast-line" things), but I do want to just get
> auto-complete.
>
> Hey, I use auto-complete for dive buddy names. And that's despite the
> fact that the most common dive buddy name I have has four letters.
>
> For something like "Molokini Backwall drift: Reef's End"? Yeah, I'll
> auto-complete it, thank you very much.
>

Could the best solution be broken into two parts?
1. You haven't yet synced the companion app but you select your dive site
from the list, so that new dive is assigned that existing site.

2. You sync the app, and the coordinates for that dive put it >20m (or
whatever) from that site.  IIf this occurs you are prompted with 3 options:
-Adopt existing coordinates (leave as is)
-Create a new site with same name (might be a different mooring, might be a
different ocean, either way you consider it different)
-Update that site's location with the just downloaded coordinates

> And I just think that in general, the whole "we have to have a
> discussion spread out over several weeks, three different versions,
> and people can't even agree on the semantics" is a sign that we should
> *not* have some kind of subtle rules and implicit behavior.
>
>                Linus
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