[PLEASE VOTE] so what should we be working on

Jacco van Koll jacco.van.koll at gmail.com
Sun May 29 02:09:34 PDT 2016


Dirk,

My honest opinion is, that, while I use Subsurface-mobile, I haven't found
anything disturbing at all!!! Maybe the quality of code in this package is
just of high quality, and is therefore the complete oposite of what you
expected?

Dirk, be aware, that sometimes things work out *out of the box* close to
perfect! And to me, this app is one of those!

Instead of seeing it as a project being abandoned, you should see it for
what I see it: Something that worked out near to perfection. Credits to
you, and all who have been working on it!

Therefore, stepping away, because it seems that it is a "dead born child",
might be a huge mistake.

But that is only my 5cents....

I am sorry that I am not a developer! Else I would have volunteered!!!!

Regards,

Jacco van Koll

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 11:37 PM, Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org> wrote:

> I have been focused on other things for a while (and the why and the what
> will become public fairly soon) and decided to use that chance to figure
> out what would happen if I just stopped paying attention here for a while.
>
> Here's what I think I learned (correct me if I'm wrong)
>
> a) no one cares about Subsurface-mobile. No bug reports, no code, no
> suggestions, nothing. So I guess we should call this a failed attempt and
> abandon it - screw the 500 or so people who use it.
>
> b) Miika continues to deal with any import bug that shows up. Awesome.
> Your patches have been pushed
>
> c) there continues to be a slow crawl of features, ideas, patches for the
> planner. Those have also been pushed (someone poke me if I got something
> wrong there)
>
> d) no one cares about the dive site mess that we have. The current version
> in Subsurface 4.5.x is pretty much unusable and makes no bleeping sense.
> No patches, some suggestions for improvement, no discussion, nothing.
>
>
> In summary, this project is pretty much dead. I guess it does everything
> the formerly active developers wanted? Or everyone has moved on to more fun
> things? Or had children, changed jobs, built a house, lost their job, or
> one of a number of other life events?
>
>
> So what should we be working on...? Should we...
>
> (1) just shut this down and move on?
> (2) move things to maintenance mode, abandon Subsurface-mobile, fix bugs
> in Subsurface whenever we find time but otherwise declare victory? It won't
> be too painful to track libdicecomputer and keep making 4.5.x releases for
> a while, I guess...
> (3) focus on Subsurface-mobile, release the iOS version, update the
> Android version and see if there is a single person besides me who is
> willing to invest time into that?
> (4) focus on Subsurface 4.6, fix the dive site management and create a
> list of prioritized features that we want to get in place?
> (5) focus on Subsurface 5.0, write a completely new UI and abandon what we
> have in 4.5?
>
> If your vote is for 3, 4, or 5 I assume that you are volunteering to carry
> some of the work that is needed to get there.
> If you don't vote, I will count that as a vote for 1.
>
> /D
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