Dive computer tool for blind and visually impaired divers

[Miika Turkia]

you could try https://kristaps.bsd.lv/divecmd/

I have not personally used it, but it should be able to export directly to
csv and is a command line tool (IIRC it was forked from dctool at some
point)

miika


On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Simon Eigeldinger <
simon.eigeldinger at vol.at> wrote:

> Hi Willem,
>
> thanks for the info.
> well i need just the dc data anyway.
> so maybe just importing the dc data, exporting all things and then use the
> csv data might be enough.
> then not saving the logbook xml file.
>
> xml isn't nice to be used mainly as info for blind people so xml isn't the
> way i think i might use my data.
> xml is human readable but not convenient. *smile*
>
> I guess dctool also might to be able to download the dives but not be able
> to convert that to csv.
>
> Greetings,
> Simon
>
> Am 18.08.2018 um 16:39 schrieb Willem Ferguson:
>
>> On 18/08/2018 15:58, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am Simon and I am a blind diver.
>>> I have now around 140 dives under my belt and have no dive computer at
>>> the moment which is a problem.
>>> Mainly the problem is that i can't read the display but thats a
>>> different story.
>>> I want/should take a dive computer with me to act as a black box if
>>> something happens.
>>> And also as a logging tool later when i am out and i want to know
>>> something.
>>> Is there a small tool or could someone write one to get the data off of
>>> the dive computer and then write it in a text file or csv file to make all
>>> the info on the dive accessible for me.
>>> I don't know if dive computers also log the dive profile that way that
>>> it saves each sensor reading in a internal table with time, depth, water
>>> temperature and other info and if that also could be exported.
>>> the problem is i can't use most of the diving software because of their
>>> graphical nature and the problem how the GUI has been made.
>>>
>>> I know there are not many blind divers around but such a tool would be
>>> pretty handy.
>>> my main OS is Windows but a command line tool would be the most portable
>>> to be multiplatform.
>>>
>>> i am also looking for a cheap dive computer for that because i guess the
>>> more expensive ones have features i never use. *smile*.
>>> The only gases i currently use is normal air and nitrox.
>>>
>>> would be great if someone could help out or knows a tool that could do
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Greetings and thanks,
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>
>> Simon,
>>
>> Firstly, as far as obtaining text data from the dive log is concerned,
>> here are a few (maybe limited) options.
>>
>> As you are probably aware, Subsurface can export dive logs in csv format.
>> Go File -> export -> CSV. I think, from a blind diver's perspective there
>> are two limitations.
>>
>> 1) The CSV is written as an export format. This means that the dive log
>> could probably not be kept in CSV format. This would therefore currently
>> require a CSV export every time you wish to view new dives that have been
>> added to the dive log.
>>
>> 2) The dive-level data (e.g. dive site name, name of buddy, etc) need to
>> be exported separately from the profile data (i.e. the time-depth values
>> within a single dive). There are therefore two CSV export options: export
>> the dive-level data and export the profile-level data. For a coherent view
>> of a dive, we mostly use the combination of both types of data. I am
>> reasonable sure that it would be reasonably simple to add a Subsurface
>> command-line option that exports the dive log to CSV so that the dive log
>> export could be done by running Subsurface in command-line mode.
>>
>> Keep in mind that the dive log is in XML format which is also text-based
>> and human-readable, as is CSV. The XML version has each dive as a complete
>> item, including dive site name, buddy info, etc. But this would mean being
>> able to use the XML tags to find specific information items. The advantage
>> of this is that no export to CSV would be required.
>>
>> Secondly, as far as a dive computer is concerned, I have never come
>> across one meant for or suitable for divers. The best that I can think of
>> is to use a dive computer with a USB cable interface. Most USB dive
>> computers I have used automatically go into a PC or download mode when the
>> dive computer is connected to a laptop using the USB cable. For my Mares
>> computer it was not even necessary to switch on the dive computer: it
>> sensed the power on the USB cable and switched into download mode
>> automatically. This would simplify the button presses on the dive computer
>> when a blind person wishes to download. But the appropriate mouse clicks
>> using Subsurface would also be required, and I do not know how
>> sophisticated your accessibility software is at reading the download panel
>> in Subsurface.
>>
>> I hope this gives you something to start with.
>> Kind regards,
>> willem
>>
>>
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