Dive computer tool for blind and visually impaired divers

[Simon Eigeldinger]

Hi Miika,

Unfortunately not under windows.
though thanks for the info.
might set up a small linux box maybe.

Greetings,
Simon



Am 18.08.2018 um 18:01 schrieb Miika Turkia:
> you could try https://kristaps.bsd.lv/divecmd/
> 
> I have not personally used it, but it should be able to export directly to
> csv and is a command line tool (IIRC it was forked from dctool at some
> point)
> 
> miika
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Simon Eigeldinger <
> simon.eigeldinger at vol.at> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Willem,
>>
>> thanks for the info.
>> well i need just the dc data anyway.
>> so maybe just importing the dc data, exporting all things and then use the
>> csv data might be enough.
>> then not saving the logbook xml file.
>>
>> xml isn't nice to be used mainly as info for blind people so xml isn't the
>> way i think i might use my data.
>> xml is human readable but not convenient. *smile*
>>
>> I guess dctool also might to be able to download the dives but not be able
>> to convert that to csv.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Simon
>>
>> Am 18.08.2018 um 16:39 schrieb Willem Ferguson:
>>
>>> On 18/08/2018 15:58, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I am Simon and I am a blind diver.
>>>> I have now around 140 dives under my belt and have no dive computer at
>>>> the moment which is a problem.
>>>> Mainly the problem is that i can't read the display but thats a
>>>> different story.
>>>> I want/should take a dive computer with me to act as a black box if
>>>> something happens.
>>>> And also as a logging tool later when i am out and i want to know
>>>> something.
>>>> Is there a small tool or could someone write one to get the data off of
>>>> the dive computer and then write it in a text file or csv file to make all
>>>> the info on the dive accessible for me.
>>>> I don't know if dive computers also log the dive profile that way that
>>>> it saves each sensor reading in a internal table with time, depth, water
>>>> temperature and other info and if that also could be exported.
>>>> the problem is i can't use most of the diving software because of their
>>>> graphical nature and the problem how the GUI has been made.
>>>>
>>>> I know there are not many blind divers around but such a tool would be
>>>> pretty handy.
>>>> my main OS is Windows but a command line tool would be the most portable
>>>> to be multiplatform.
>>>>
>>>> i am also looking for a cheap dive computer for that because i guess the
>>>> more expensive ones have features i never use. *smile*.
>>>> The only gases i currently use is normal air and nitrox.
>>>>
>>>> would be great if someone could help out or knows a tool that could do
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings and thanks,
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>
>>> Simon,
>>>
>>> Firstly, as far as obtaining text data from the dive log is concerned,
>>> here are a few (maybe limited) options.
>>>
>>> As you are probably aware, Subsurface can export dive logs in csv format.
>>> Go File -> export -> CSV. I think, from a blind diver's perspective there
>>> are two limitations.
>>>
>>> 1) The CSV is written as an export format. This means that the dive log
>>> could probably not be kept in CSV format. This would therefore currently
>>> require a CSV export every time you wish to view new dives that have been
>>> added to the dive log.
>>>
>>> 2) The dive-level data (e.g. dive site name, name of buddy, etc) need to
>>> be exported separately from the profile data (i.e. the time-depth values
>>> within a single dive). There are therefore two CSV export options: export
>>> the dive-level data and export the profile-level data. For a coherent view
>>> of a dive, we mostly use the combination of both types of data. I am
>>> reasonable sure that it would be reasonably simple to add a Subsurface
>>> command-line option that exports the dive log to CSV so that the dive log
>>> export could be done by running Subsurface in command-line mode.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind that the dive log is in XML format which is also text-based
>>> and human-readable, as is CSV. The XML version has each dive as a complete
>>> item, including dive site name, buddy info, etc. But this would mean being
>>> able to use the XML tags to find specific information items. The advantage
>>> of this is that no export to CSV would be required.
>>>
>>> Secondly, as far as a dive computer is concerned, I have never come
>>> across one meant for or suitable for divers. The best that I can think of
>>> is to use a dive computer with a USB cable interface. Most USB dive
>>> computers I have used automatically go into a PC or download mode when the
>>> dive computer is connected to a laptop using the USB cable. For my Mares
>>> computer it was not even necessary to switch on the dive computer: it
>>> sensed the power on the USB cable and switched into download mode
>>> automatically. This would simplify the button presses on the dive computer
>>> when a blind person wishes to download. But the appropriate mouse clicks
>>> using Subsurface would also be required, and I do not know how
>>> sophisticated your accessibility software is at reading the download panel
>>> in Subsurface.
>>>
>>> I hope this gives you something to start with.
>>> Kind regards,
>>> willem
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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