Missing pO2 samples from CCR download [was: 4.7.8: a couple of questions]

Davide DB dbdavide at gmail.com
Thu May 10 13:47:51 PDT 2018


On Thu, 3 May 2018 at 21:39, Davide DB <dbdavide at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 3 May 2018 at 18:52, Anton Lundin <glance at acc.umu.se> wrote:

>> On 03 May, 2018 - Davide DB wrote:

>> > On Thu, 3 May 2018 at 13:15, Anton Lundin <glance at acc.umu.se> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On 03 May, 2018 - Davide DB wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Wed, 2 May 2018 at 11:04, Anton Lundin <glance at acc.umu.se>
wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Try to download them into a fresh logbook with the current
desktop
>> > > > > version, to see what's happens then.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I've just downloaded my dives on a fresh Win10 4.7.8 installation.
>> > > > As usual after few dives my Petrel quits with "error sending packet
>> > > error".
>> > > > I saved some of them anyway and PO2 values are missing.
>> > > > This is how the petrel controller is recognized. File is attached.
>> > > >
>> > > > <divecomputer model='Shearwater Petrel 2' deviceid='1a2d46b1'
>> > > > diveid='2e7067fb' dctype='CCR'>
>> > > >
>> > > > There's no mention of O2 sensor.
>> > > >
>> > > > These are all different pertel descriptions of the very same dive
>> > > computer
>> > > > I found in my original logbook
>> > > >
>> > > > <divecomputer model='Shearwater Petrel 2' deviceid='1a2d46b1'
>> > > > diveid='3db7eb77' dctype='CCR' no_o2sensors='1'>
>> > > > <divecomputer model='Shearwater Petrel 2' deviceid='1a2d46b1'
>> > > > diveid='52d4ba3e' dctype='CCR' no_o2sensors='3'>
>> > > > <divecomputer model='Shearwater Petrel' deviceid='1a2d46b1'
>> > > > diveid='a6e05a10' dctype='CCR'>
>> > > > <divecomputer model='Shearwater Petrel 2' deviceid='1a2d46b1'
>> > > > diveid='3db24900' dctype='CCR'>
>> > > >
>> > > > Were pO2 samples download removed?
>> > >
>> > > This is probably because we can't find any calibration values in your
>> > > computer. Did you get a warning:
>> > > "Disabled all O2 sensors due to a default calibration value." ?
>> > >
>> > > I think the code should fall back to the sensor average po2 when we
>> > > won't get calibration values for the sensors, but we're not doing
that
>> > > right now.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Anton,
>> >
>> > I'm not crazy enough to dive a rebreather without a proper calibration.
>> > Everything is ok on my unit. Cells are new and get calibrated before
every
>> > dive.

>> Shure. The computer is probably properly calibrated, but the
>> calibration values found in the memory of the computer are the default
>> ones. Without those we can't convert the mV values to po2 values.

>> The cal values might be there somewhere, but we don't know where.

>> We can't emit the raw mV values, because neither libdivecomputer nor
>> subsurface supports mV values.

>> > I tried to download again from Shearwater desktop and everything is
there:
>> > pO2 and mV samples. I've never updated my Petrel since we found that
>> > Subsurface pO2 values were completely wrong so I guess it should be
some
>> > bug arose lately.
>> > It's sad nobody else (ccr users) replied to my feedback request when I
>> > noted the pO2 discrepancy. I cannot believe I'm the only one on this
list
>> > using a ccr unit whit a divecan shearwater controller.
>> >  When I realized pO2 were missing I thought it was something related
to the
>> > mobile download but it's not.
>> >
>> > I would do a full Subsurface download but I drained another battery
but I
>> > do not have a new one around ATM.

>> We should at least emit the per sample average, when we can't emit the
>> individual sensor values.

>> Best would be if we could emit both the "true" average po2 and the
>> individual sensor values. Unfortunately the interface doesn't support
>> that distinction.


> I changed battery and downloaded again with subsurface 4.7.8 desktop
saving the libdivecomputer log file.
> I quit the download before getting errors and draining my battery.
> At the end of the libdivecomputer file I find:

> WARNING: Disabled all O2 sensors due to a default calibration value. [in
/home/travis/build/Subsurface-divelog/subsurface/libdivecomputer/src/shearwater_predator_parser.c:503
(shearwater_predator_parser_cache)]
> INFO: Write: size=9, data=FF0105002E902000C0

> Exactly the problem mentioned by Anton.

> Could someone explain me what does it means?
> Is it a way to avoid displaying wrong pO2 samples due to the previous
problem?
> What can I do? Is it my fault? Is my Petrel defective?

> Why in my logbook I find 4 different computer names with different
attributes if my unit is always the same?

> <divecomputer model='Shearwater Petrel 2' deviceid='1a2d46b1'>
diveid='3db7eb77' dctype='CCR' no_o2sensors='1'>
> <divecomputer model='Shearwater Petrel 2' deviceid='1a2d46b1'>
diveid='52d4ba3e' dctype='CCR' no_o2sensors='3'>
> <divecomputer model='Shearwater Petrel' deviceid='1a2d46b1'>
diveid='a6e05a10' dctype='CCR'>
> <divecomputer model='Shearwater Petrel 2' deviceid='1a2d46b1'>
diveid='3db24900' dctype='CCR'>

> Are those differences due to subsurface history reason?

> Thank you in advance

> --
> Davide
> https://vimeo.com/bocio/videos



Thank you guys

-- 
Davide
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