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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/02/2015 10:15 PM, Joakim Bygdell
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<div>If you look at how the plan looks like when it is
initialised with the box unchecked, </div>
<div>the first line represents your descent and that is the
one that gets discarded when you check the box.</div>
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Maybe we need to clarify this in the manual a bit more</div>
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type="cite">The way the “Drop to first depth” is designed is that
it takes the data from line 2 and assumes that you drop like a
stone to that depth.
<div>* If you intend to use the “Drop to first depth” it should be
checked before you start adding waypoints to your plan.</div>
<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>This
is only useful if you are diving from a boat or a place with
deep water close to shore.</div>
<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>If
you start your dive from shore the box should be unchecked.
Otherwise subsurface can’t do proper calculations for your long
and shallow descent.</div>
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<div>* Each line in the planner table is the position of a
waypoint and represents the end of a segment.</div>
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That is an important distinction originally lost on me.<br>
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<div>Another thing you can do is to check the box for “Verbatim
dive plan”.</div>
<div>Then there will be a description of you dive in plain text.</div>
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<div>For your example dive it looks like this:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><!--StartFragment--><span
class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Transition
to 130 ft in 1:58 min - runtime 1:58 on EAN26<br class="">
<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Stay
at 130 ft for 5:02 min - runtime 7:00 on EAN26<br class="">
<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Transition
to 70 ft in 2:00 min - runtime 9:00 on EAN26<br class="">
<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Stay
at 70 ft for 10:00 min - runtime 19:00 on EAN26<br class="">
<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Transition
to 0 ft in 4:09 min - runtime 23:09 on EAN26<!--EndFragment--></div>
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I was noticing that in the box to the right. Looks nice and helps
clarify what is happening.<br>
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<div>If you let the planner know which cylinder you are intending
to use as well as your SAC </div>
<div>(which subsurface can calculate for you if you add the
cylinder size, start and end pressures of the dives that you
import) </div>
<div>you get this little treat at the bottom of the Dive plan
details. </div>
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<div style="margin: 0px;" class="">Assuming AL80.</div>
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HP 119 with 28% :-)<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">Oh, and option
to pick between 15 or 20'. I noticed only 20'
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That is because the planner used 10’ increments
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And the planner will only calculate what reamins
on the ascent after your last waypoint.<br
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How about another check box to "include 3 min
safety stop at 15 feet" at the end of the dive.
At least that is what is being taught in PADI.</span><br
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<div class="">That might not be to hard to implement.</div>
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I'm still interested in that option.<br>
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Thanks<br>
--Steve<br>
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