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<p>Hi All,<br>
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Am 08.02.2017 um 00:09 schrieb Rick Walsh:<br>
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<div>There is probably no point in arguing about the
original model since that IIIRC does not consider
repetitive dives but I have to check the docs again.</div>
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<div>Eric Baker's Fortran VPM-B program, which I assume you
mean by the "original model", does indeed consider
repetitive dives and surface intervals. Input is in the
form of a text file containing details of the dive/s to be
planned. I compiled it on my laptop at home, but I'm at
work now and won't have a chance for a few days to test
the effect. Given what's written in the article I linked
above, I suspect the crushing radius is not reset in
between dives.<br>
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<div>I tested similar profiles to Stefan's test case with
GUE Deco Planner 3.1.4 (funnily enough, I couldn't work
out how to set the final ascent rate to 1m/s, even though
this is GUE standard practice). First dive (18/45 to 60m)
had leaving 6m (last) stop at 83min (same as Subsurface).
Second dive (air to 40m) had leaving 3m stop at 52min for
either 47:30 surface interval, or 1hr surface interval.
Doing the 40m air dive without a previous dive, the 3m
stop ends at 51min (same as Subsurface), so a slight
penalty is paid for doing it as a repetitive dive. Note
that Deco Planner treats surface intervals
unconventionally: it assumes the surface interval is
performed at 1m depth, so tissues never fully
de-saturate. I am not aware of any other planning
software doing this.<br>
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I also did some more investigations based on more or less the same
setup with two dives like the one I posted initially. There are some
findings which are not encouraging. I meanwhile understand why
Robert and Linus are not really happy with VPM-B and it's various
implementations. The tests were done with VPlanner configured to
VPM-B (not B/E, etc.) and in a similar way as Subsurface.<br>
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1. VPlanner in some way also gives you a bonus (shorter deco) when
doing the second dive as a repetitive dive but in a different way.
You get a bonus of up to 4min for a surface time below 3h. The
shorter the surface time, the higher the bonus. Starting from 3h
surface time or longer the results are the same as if you start with
clean tissues. So this is again different to results from a)
Subsurface before reset fix b) Subsurface after fix and c) GUE Deco
Planner based on what Rick wrote.<br>
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2. For the first dive I was impressed to see that VPlanner and
Subsurface results are really the same. Plus GUE Deco Planner
results from Rick are also the same.<br>
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Tauchplan</span><br>
Runtime: 92min<br>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">34min</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">2min</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
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</td>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
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<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">58min</p>
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style=" font-weight:600; color:#ff0000;">Sauerstoff</span></p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
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text-indent:0px;">CND: 79%<br>
OTU: 122<br>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
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text-indent:0px;">Deco model: VPM-B at +2 conservatism,
effektive GF=55/45<br>
ATM pressure: 1013mbar (0m)</p>
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3. Then for the second, much simpler dive I am surprised that the
results are different! I planned this very simple dive then
"standalone" in both tools -> still the same difference. VPlanner
gives you shorter deco and I really have doubts if I did s.th. wrong
but I can't figure out what.<br>
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<td valign="top"><span style=" font-weight:600;">Subsurface
Tauchplan</span><br>
Runtime: 55min<br>
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align="center"><span style=" font-weight:600;">Tiefe</span></p>
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margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
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align="center"><span style=" font-weight:600;">Dauer</span></p>
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margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"
align="center"><span style=" font-weight:600;">Laufzeit</span></p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"
align="center"><span style=" font-weight:600;">Gas</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</thead>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">➘</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">40m</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">4min</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">4min</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span
style=" font-weight:600; color:#ff0000;">Luft</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">➙</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">40m</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">16min</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">20min</p>
</td>
<td>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> </p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">-</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">15m</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">6min</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">26min</p>
</td>
<td>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> </p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">-</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">12m</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">3min</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">29min</p>
</td>
<td>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> </p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">-</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">9m</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">4min</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">33min</p>
</td>
<td>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> </p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">-</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">6m</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">7min</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">40min</p>
</td>
<td>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> </p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">-</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">3m</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">12min</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">52min</p>
</td>
<td>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> </p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">➚</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">0m</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">3min</p>
</td>
<td style=" padding-left:10;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">55min</p>
</td>
<td>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> </p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0;
text-indent:0px;"><br>
</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0;
text-indent:0px;">CND: 9%<br>
OTU: 24<br>
</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px;
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0;
text-indent:0px;">Deco model: VPM-B at +2 conservatism,
effektive GF=27/66<br>
ATM pressure: 1013mbar (0m)</p>
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<td valign="top">V-Planner 3,98 by Ross Hemingway,<br>
VPM Code by Erik C. Baker.<br>
<br>
Dekompressionsmodell: VPM - B<br>
<br>
TAUCHPLAN<br>
Oberflächenpause = 5 Tag(e) 0 hr 0 min.<br>
Höhe über N. N. = 0m<br>
Konservatismus = + 2<br>
<br>
Abst. 40m (4) Air 10m/min Abstieg <br>
Tiefe 40m 16:00 (20) Air 1,02 ppO2, 40m
ead<br>
Aufst. 18m (22) Air -10m/min Aufstieg <br>
Stop 18m 0:48 (23) Air 0,58 ppO2, 18m ead<br>
Stop 15m 2:00 (25) Air 0,51 ppO2, 15m ead<br>
Stop 12m 3:00 (28) Air 0,45 ppO2, 12m ead<br>
Stop 9m 3:00 (31) Air 0,39 ppO2, 9m ead<br>
Stop 6m 7:00 (38) Air 0,33 ppO2, 6m ead<br>
Stop 3m 10:00 (48) Air 0,27 ppO2, 3m ead<br>
Oberfl. (51) Air -1m/min Aufstieg <br>
<br>
Ausgasung beginnt bei 27,4m<br>
<br>
OTU's Tauchgang: 21<br>
CNS Total: 7,4%<br>
<br>
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Finally I decided not to worry too much :-)<br>
- I prefer to see a penalty for any repetitive dive I plan so I like
the fix you did now<br>
- Subsurface at least in this examples gives similar or slightly
more conservative results -> also ok for me<br>
- My buddies and me will continue to compare different results
before we go diving<br>
- I don't do repetitive dives so often because actually I'm too lazy
to get in and out of my dry suit more than once a day + plus I'm so
hungry and thirsty after each dive that this also stops me from
doing a second one afterwards ;-)<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
Stefan<br>
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