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---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Willem Ferguson <<a href="mailto:willemferguson@zoology.up.ac.za">willemferguson@zoology.up.ac.za</a>><br>To: Subsurface Mailing List <<a href="mailto:subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org">subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:10:12 +0200<br>Subject: RFC: Print templates for 4 dives per page and 6 dives per page<br>
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<p>I attach two images for some print templates that I have been
working with. I would appreciate comments from any members of this
list, but especially from anyone who prints dives to paper.</p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>HH - I'm a recreational diver and I 'used to' print out my logs. When I moved to using Subsurface I wanted to get many diver/page to save paper and in that case I didn't care about the profile. I did care about the notes. The thinking is that a dive operator doesn't care how long you spent at 30m or 40m, just that you did. Or they don't care what your profile looked like, just that you did a night dive or something like that. </div><div><br></div><div>Don't get me wrong. One of the key reasons I use Subsurface is the visualization of the dive, but I think only me and my dive partner care about that and in that case I use my laptop or handheld to view the profile. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<p>My point of departure with this work is to accommodate divers why
frequently print dives. Three points: 1) The biggest limitation is
that all dive details (i.e. those shown on the Notes, Equipment
and Information tabs in Subsurface) cannot be fitted onto a single
sheet of paper. Therefore I assume that those who print dives are
more likely to be those who dive in a recreational environment and
configuration. Such divers have fewer demands from a printout,
compared to technical/sidemount/rebreather divers. </p></div></blockquote><div>[HH] agree </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><p>These print
layouts are therefore geared towards recreational divers. 2) I
used "conventional" recreational dive log sheets available on the
Internet to determine what information is more likely to be
relevant to a recreational diver. 3) Though I have not been
totally consistent, I assumed that the information showed in the
multiple-dives-per-page layouts should not show information
different from the one-dive-per-page layout. If space is limiting,
a subset of information on the one-page layout should be shown on
the layouts with less page space for each dive. Any comments on
these points of departure?<br>
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<p><b>6 dives:</b> On the left is the current default layout.
Biggest issue is that the notes are mostly not shown or severely
truncated. It is futile to include the Notes in the 6-dive layout.
A lot of information is shown here, which are not shown in the
one-page print layout (e.g. SAC rate, rating, tags). In putting
together a 6-dive layout, I decided to split the templates into
two: 1) a template that does not show the notes; 2) a template
that does not show the dive profile. This gives a diver a choice
to print whatever is more important for her/him. In these two
derived templates, I re-arranged the layout compared to the
current template. </p></div></blockquote><div> [HH] given my comments above, it isn't surprising I prefer the 2nd layout for the 6-dive - the one with more space for notes and no profile.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><p>Note that in all 6-dive layouts, the depth and
time labels on the dive profile are for all practical purposes
illegible, and I suspect this is a problem that is not easily
solved. Note:</p>
<p>1) The gas information on my two templates are truncated if more
than one cylinder is used on a dive. The gas information in my
templates are rather cryptic, giving cylinder type, gas type and
begin/end cylinder pressure. In the existing 6-dive layout
(leftmost in image) there is more information given for gas, but
this comes with a penalty in other aspects of the page layout.<br>
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<p>2) In the proposed 6-dive layout with dive notes (i.e. without
dive profile), the dive notes are truncated if there are too many
notes. I often write fairly lengthy dive notes, so in the
multiple-diives-per-page printouts, my notes are commonly
truncated.</p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>[HH] the space you've allocated for notes seems sufficient for my purposes. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<p><b>4 dives: </b>We currently do not have a 4-dive template. My
rationale was that if someone wanted a several dives per page and
also both the dive profile and the dive notes, a 4-dive layout is
the more viable than the 6-dive layout. Here also, if the dive
notes are long, they are truncated. This layout is a compromise to
show more or less all the information originally intended with the
6-dive layout.</p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>[HH] I no longer print out, but would use the 6-dive, no profile template. I just asked my wife and she likes the 4-dive template! It just shows you that it is hard to have a 1 size fits all solution. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<p>Any comments are highly appreciated. If these layout are
perceived as useful, I will circulate the templates so that you
can test them on your own dive log. After that we can decide in
which way they will be added to the current set of templates.</p>
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