
<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Please have bike shedding festivities about communication mechanisms in the Telegram group of your choice.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And please feel free to start a Telegram group for Subsurface. But please don't expect any of the main developers to ever show up there.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This development mailing list is and will be on email. If you would rather not be on email, that is certainly your choice.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">/D<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 7, 2020, at 1:33 AM, tormento via subsurface <<a href="mailto:subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org" class="">subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Unless you use a SECURE VPN, IP is included in the header or anyway traceable.</div></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">It’s more than enough to have some agency knocking at your door.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno sab 7 mar 2020 alle 10:30 Benjamin <<a href="mailto:nystire@gmail.com" class="">nystire@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">Email is not really personally identifiable. Anyone can use a given account at any time. Telegram, Signal, WhatsApp and their ilk are all linked to a telephone number. So that already limits who can use it concurrently. Which means that fingers can be pointed at people more easily. Which tends to make certain people slightly nervous ;)</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, 11:26 tormento via subsurface, <<a href="mailto:subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org" target="_blank" class="">subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Are you all really talking about crypto when emails travel as plain text? XD</div></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno sab 7 mar 2020 alle 09:47 Benjamin <<a href="mailto:nystire@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">nystire@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">The cryptography in Telegram has already been compromised, as seen in that case in Brazil a short while ago. </div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, 10:12 Robert C. Helling via subsurface, <<a href="mailto:subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br class="">

<br class="">

> Am 07.03.2020 um 00:06 schrieb tormento via subsurface <<a href="mailto:subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org</a>>:<br class="">

> <br class="">

> Ever thought about creating a Telegram group?<br class="">

<br class="">

Please don’t. Email as a mature technology is far superior to any messenger in terms of archiving, searching, sorting and automated processing. <br class="">

<br class="">

Just my $.02<br class="">

Robert<br class="">

<br class="">

Ps: wrt telegram: please convince yourself you can trust the people behind telegram before relying on the cryptography they offer. <br class="">

_______________________________________________<br class="">

subsurface mailing list<br class="">

<a href="mailto:subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org</a><br class="">

<a href="http://lists.subsurface-divelog.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/subsurface" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.subsurface-divelog.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/subsurface</a><br class="">

</blockquote></div>

</blockquote></div></div>

_______________________________________________<br class="">

subsurface mailing list<br class="">

<a href="mailto:subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org</a><br class="">

<a href="http://lists.subsurface-divelog.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/subsurface" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.subsurface-divelog.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/subsurface</a><br class="">

</blockquote></div>

</blockquote></div></div>

_______________________________________________<br class="">subsurface mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org" class="">subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org</a><br class="">http://lists.subsurface-divelog.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/subsurface<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>