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<p>Hi Dirk, hi together,</p>
<p>I'm not great in UI myself, but I've drawn out what I tried to
put in words. It's basically just moving some elements around, so
they are more grouped by functionality.<br>
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<p><img src="cid:part1.A842D932.CA91EFC9@charno.ch" alt=""></p>
<p>Basically I moved the constraints down. I aligned the Dropdown
from the Fulltext-Section with the "Add constraints"-button, but
did not align the items in the constraint-list with anything
outside of the list (so keep the list tabular, but don't align
with the headers).<br>
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<p>I did remove the bold "Filter" at the top left, since I think the
Tab header should be enough (but if a title should be present,
maybe give it it's own line?). I would also suggest that - if no
constraint is currently active - a "No constrains present"-Text
should be displayed where the constraints are otherwise.</p>
<p>Best regards<br>
Christof<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09.01.21 18:01, Dirk Hohndel via
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Jan 8, 2021, at 15:13, Berthold Stoeger via subsurface <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org"><subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org></a> wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Freitag, 8. Jänner 2021 23:25:07 CET Christof Arnosti via subsurface wrote:
* When I select date(yearly) as base variable and buddies as data, bar
charts have a yellow warning in the drop down. Why's that?
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A bar-chart is not recommended with continuous data. A histogram is preferred.
However, as you note, the warning icon is not a good UI element.
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BTW: since Berthold, Willem, and I are all three not necessarily the best UI designers in the world... I’m curious if people have better idea for how to mark “undesirable” charts. What Berthold has done with the warning triangle has the advantage of being fairly easy to implement in Qt (because the widget supports this concept of having a mark that you put on top of the icon and in front of the text). But if someone has a stronger UI concept of how we should do that, I’m sure one of us will try to wrestle Qt into submission to implement that.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">* The trend line does not always appear in the scatter graph. For
example, when I select date (no binning) / depth, there is no trend
line, except for when I filter out very shallow depths. For water
temp over date I get a trend line right away. I'm sure that's
correct and there is a statistical reason for this that I'm not
aware of.
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Indeed, there is a statistical test whether there is a linear regression.
Willem knows more.
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And, BTW, depending on which version exactly you tested, there were a couple of binaries that had a bug that prevented valid regression lines from being shown. The current binaries, however, no longer have that bug.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">* Is there some Export functionality planned? For example simple image
export of the graph?
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Not yet.
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I’ll admit that I always think “every OS has a well understood screen shot function...”
So this isn’t necessarily high on my personal list :-)
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> * For me the Filter GUI seems a bit unintuitive. When there is no
constraint present, it's not very obvious that constraints can be
added (the button is in an odd place). A change to make it more
obvious could be to add a "Constraints" heading below the fulltext
search, and move the button there? And maybe also display a "No
constraints" text when no constraint is set? I really like the
"Filter sets" functionality!
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Yes, I also noticed that - especially in the German translation - the filter
is quite inaccessible.
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See my earlier comment. We would be delighted to see visual mockups of what you think would be a better UI. Literally, take a few colored pens/pencils, draw on a piece of paper, send a cell phone pic. No need to try to create this in software, just help us with better ideas...
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> * What I didn't find was an "Average depth" variable, this would maybe
also be interesting to add.
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I'm not sure if we currently track the average depth. I'm also not sure it is
very well defined - what about surface intervals. Dirk?
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When people say “average depth” I always assume they are asking for the “mean depth”.
I’m not sure what I would do with a surface interval statistic - but hey, what do I know, right?
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">What would be really nice, but might be complicated to implement, would
be to have a kind of "Zoom" or "Select" possibility to add constraints.
For example my Depth over Date Scattergraph looks like this:
Now to have a look at a single holiday I can add a constraint over a
range of dates, for example 1.1.2017 to 1.1.2018. This works fine! But
the cherry on top would be if I could simply drag a rectangle over the
points in 2017, and set the constraints like this (Sort of a "Zoom into
range" functionality).
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That is an interesting idea. But don't hold your breath. Currently we are
changing the rendering engine to port the statistics to mobile and this will
take some time.
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I have learned the hard way that these “intuitive zoom” ideas end up being painfully hard to implement, but I agree that on the desktop (with a mouse) this does sound super cool.
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