What's missing for 4.2?

Benjamin nystire at gmail.com
Wed Jun 11 20:54:58 PDT 2014


Speaking about things that I know very little about here, but maybe build a
container with Subsurface and all it's dependencies inside it? Or do they
not work that way?

Benjamin
On 11 Jun 2014 22:26, "Dirk Hohndel" <dirk at hohndel.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 03:53:29PM -0300, Rodrigo Severo wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Which brings me back to another one of my pet projects. Create a self
> > > contained Linux install that uses libraries that I ship with the
> package
> > > and runs on any Linux distro - screw the packaging rules and other
> > > constraints that the distro wants to put on me.
> >
> > And here we see Dirk in his worst behaviour. Kids, don't repeat this at
> > home.
>
> Oh no, not at all. This is not even close to my worst behavior.
> This is actually one of my pet peaves with Linux - not Linux the kernel,
> but Linux the eco system.
>
> The idiotic distributions, run by people who can't see the forest for the
> trees.
>
> Why is Android the only successful Linux on the client? It has an appstore
> and things "just work".
> Why does Linus say that "Steam OS" is maybe the best hope for Linux on the
> Desktop? Because it solves the app issue.
>
> The #1 reason why Linux has failed to have any success whatsoever on the
> client (desktop and laptop) is that it is absolutely impossible to package
> and ship an application that will work on people's PCs.
> The standard answer from the open source zealots? Ship sources. Sure, I do
> that - but then how do people get the dependencies and heck, WTF, why
> should Joe User know how to build an app?
> Oh, and the distributions will just include my app. Yeah, sure, months and
> months after we do a release. And enforcing their silly packaging rules on
> us (like not allowing us to statically link against libdivecomputer, or
> forcing people to install 150MB of Marble just because we want the
> library, and of course not allowing us to modify that library to remove
> the things we don't want).
>
> It is very straight forward for me to create Windows and Mac binaries that
> run on ALL Windows and Mac machines sold in the past 6-8 years. It is
> utterly impossible to create a Linux binary that runs on even 10% of the
> Linux boxes sold in the past 2 years.
>
> OK, off my soap box, back to solving more pressing issues.
>
> /D
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