Subsurface app for iOS

Thu Nov 26 11:05:33 PST 2015

Tomaz:

   - Alas, no CMake skills worth mentioning.

Dirk:

   - http://lists.subsurface-divelog.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/subsurface
   - this one?
   - Based in EST.
   - Extensive experience in native iOS development, Objective-C, Swift,
   Xcode.
   - Android development as well, Java (obviously) and JNI (C++).
   - Running OS X El Capitan on the VMWare (Windows 7 as a host). Have
   couple of iDevices for testing beyond simulator.
   - [Holiday] weekends are only time when I can have fun that is not
   diving.
   - "If you want to work on Qt/QML ..." - it seems I have no choice if I
   want to contribute to Subsurface?

Regards,
Z.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org> wrote:

>
> Step 1: join the development mailing list :-)
> Step 2: clone the git repository (which OS are you building on? warning,
> warning, building on Windows is not supported)
>
> git clone git://subsurface-divelog.org/subsurface
>
> Step 3: read the README and INSTALL instructions (hint, those are all for
> the desktop version... but they give you an idea)
> Step 4: after running build.sh (which hopefully creates a working desktop
> app for you) go into the build directory subsurface/build and run
>
> ccmake .
>
> This will give you a text-UI that allows you to modify build system
> settings. There you can enable SUBSURFACE_MOBILE - then [c]onfigure and
> [g]enerate
> Run make again and you should have a subsurface-mobile app
>
> If you want to work on Qt/QML I strongly recommend installing QtCreator
> and using that to edit / build / test.
>
> This is a somewhat terse set of instructions, simply because I don't know
> how much experience you have, what platform you are going to build on, etc.
> Please ask questions either on the mailing list or on IRC (freenode -
> subsurface channel).
>
> Many of the developers are in European time zones, Tomaz is in Brazil, I'm
> on the West Coast of the US... you can get answers more or less around the
> clock, but especially with the holiday weekend in the US I'm not sure how
> prompt I'll be to respond. Just out of curiosity, where are you based?
> Email headers seem to imply EST time zone...
>
> /D
>
> On Nov 26, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Zai Gezundt <zai.gezundt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am familiar with Qt in general but always thought that multiplatform
> toolkits are lacking "feel and act" of native applications. Anyhow, send me
> the git so I can dabble (randomly or otherwise) and see what I can do about
> 1 & 2.
>
> Regards,
> Z.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org> wrote:
>
>> Adding back the mailing list so people see what we are discussing
>>
>> There are two directions that are quite important right now
>> a) Tomaz is working on getting Subsurface-mobile built on iOS; this work
>> isn't complete, yet, and until that is finished there isn't much we can do
>> that iOS specific. But I'm sure this will only be a few more days
>> b) You should look at QML to get a feeling for how this works and how the
>> pieces work together. As experienced iOS developer my hope is that you can
>> help us make sure that our app is reasonably iOS compliant, i.e. it feels
>> and acts like an iOS app (and gets approved for the iTunes store). If you
>> want something specific to work on (so instead of randomly dabbling around
>> with QML you'll have something to contribute), here are two really simple
>> extensions of the UI (you can play with it on your desktop - it builds fine
>> on Linux and Mac):
>> (1) once a user enters their cloud credentials, change the first button
>> on the start screen from "enter cloud credentials" to "view dive list"
>> (2) on the dive list view, add a way to get back to the start screen
>>
>> Makes sense?
>>
>> /D
>>
>> On Nov 26, 2015, at 5:57 AM, Zai Gezundt <zai.gezundt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Got it. What would you like me to do?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Z.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> All of us have day jobs. Many of us disappear for days (or weeks) at a
>>> time. I'd much rather have more people looking at the code, fixing
>>> something here or there, providing input and testing, even if that may not
>>> happen on a strict schedule. Frankly, very few things here happen on a
>>> schedule :-)
>>>
>>> /D
>>>
>>> On Nov 21, 2015, at 12:01 PM, Zai Gezundt <zai.gezundt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the delayed reply. I was extremely busy for the last couple of
>>> days and this is exactly kind of unexpected workload that makes me
>>> reluctant to become an active contributor to Subsurface-mobile app. I think
>>> that failing to deliver whatever was promised would be worse than not
>>> contributing at all. Also I have to admit that I am not familiar with
>>> Qt/QML. I am experienced native iOS developer but mastering Qt/QML would
>>> require some time.
>>>
>>> Please consider aforementioned limitations and let me know if I can
>>> help. And being a diver I do want to help as much as I can.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Z.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 14, 2015, at 4:34 AM, Zai Gezundt <zai.gezundt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>>
>>>> "Fairly full features Subsurface mobile app" is an excellent goal and
>>>> it surely will supersede primitive companion app. Yet it will take
>>>> considerable time and resources do achieve. In the meanwhile, as mentioned
>>>> in the original post, I could fix minor "as is" issues of the companion
>>>> app. That is unless becoming "active contributor" is too convoluted.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's really easy to get involved and of course your contributions would
>>>> be extremely welcome.
>>>>
>>>> But even then, I'd prefer to have that involvement on the
>>>> Subsurface-mobile app. The Android version of that is pretty much at the
>>>> point where it can replace the companion app - and of course it can do a
>>>> ton more things. Tomaz is working on getting the same app built on iOS - we
>>>> used Qt/QML to build the Android app as that should allow us fairly easily
>>>> to have the same app both on Android and iOS. So if you have experience
>>>> with iOS I'd love your help to make this happen.
>>>>
>>>> But of course, if you'd rather work on the Subsurface companion app,
>>>> simply get involved here:
>>>> https://github.com/zdanovs/subsurface-companion-ios
>>>>
>>>> /D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, at least it didn't get a reply.
>>>>>
>>>>> The iOS companion app was done by a GSoC student who is no longer an
>>>>> active contributor to Subsurface, and none of the active developers really
>>>>> have taken on maintaining it. It mostly works and appears good enough, so I
>>>>> guess it's one of those "as is" applications.
>>>>> Your comments below seem valid - but I don't think this is likely to
>>>>> get fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our focus now is not on the companion apps, anyway, we have more
>>>>> interesting goals: a fairly full featured Subsurface mobile app.
>>>>>
>>>>> /D
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 13, 2015, at 2:52 PM, Zai Gezundt <zai.gezundt at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Not worth reply?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 5:14:32 AM UTC-4, Zai Gezundt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subsurface companion app for iOS is great idea but it can be improved
>>>>>> by allowing to specify site name even when dive is created automatically.
>>>>>> Consider situation when diver goes on a boat to make 2 dives and turns on
>>>>>> location tracking before each dive to capture site coordinates. The stream
>>>>>> will contain multiple entries that can be roughly grouped by coordinates
>>>>>> and time. However the name for both groups will be default one, taken from
>>>>>> settings. One can circumvent this by changing the settings before each dive
>>>>>> but it is rather inconvenient. I've downloaded Subsurface sources hoping to
>>>>>> find companion app for iOS and tweak it but found only sources for Android.
>>>>>> If you consider my proposal as worth implementing but have limited
>>>>>> development capacity - let me know if I can help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also there are two issues with companion app for iOS:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Subsurface manual states that red bar will appear at the
>>>>>>    bottom of the screen. On my iPhone 6 it is at the top, covering status bar.
>>>>>>    2. Subsurface manual states that one can add manual dive while
>>>>>>    location service is running. However the app does not respond to anything
>>>>>>    but stop button on the red bar. Could be related to 1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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