RFC: Subsurface Statistics tab

Mon Nov 25 19:05:02 PST 2019

This is great, thanks! I’ll think of some ideas, will work with bryan in
terms of the UI kit so its not a far deviation from possible styles at
least initially

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:01 PM Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org> wrote:

> HI Jordan,
>
> On Nov 25, 2019, at 4:05 PM, ♠ Jordan Reiser ♠ <jordan.l.reiser at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I think the information is designed clearly but q bit dense and is in need
> of some modernization. I’m just becoming familiar with it and haven’t had a
> chance to review the app in its current form on desktop or mobile yet (just
> seen screenshots so far). I have some initial ideas though ,
>
>  1. for example does the user need to see everything all at once or can
> things be shown only when the user needs it, thinking of collapsing
> information inside of different interactive access controls, eg onclick
> panels, accordions, sliders etc., basically leveraging invisible space as
> much as possible so the user can focus on a few things at a time.
>
>
> We use a more pedestrian way of doing just that - you can see it in the
> screen shot, actually. We have multiple tabs. The first one shows the most
> useful information for a user looking at a dive (screenshots from a Mac as
> that what I'm on right now)
>
>
> Then we have information about some of the equipment used (that one I find
> particularly ugly).
>
>
>  A lot more information about THIS dive.
>
>
> And then the statistics tab that shows information about all selected
> dives (this is kinda boring with just one dive selected).
>
>
> 2. Given the above maybe there is a way to combine the information
> contained in the tabs to lessen the amount of tabs needed, just rethinking
> the nav and consolidating similar areas may help it feel like less even
> though its the same amount of info.
>
>
> I'm very open to better ideas here. The current layout is driven by the
> need to work on relatively small screens (it's not unusual for divers to
> bring an old laptop with a 1280x800 screen - I don't think we support
> 1024x600 anymore... we used to).
>
> 3. Visualizing stats wherever possible, eg. gas consumption can be
> visualized against the total perhaps, things like this.
>
>
> Again, very open to better ideas. Our two main constraints so far have
> been "finding great design" and then "with the design ideas we have,
> finding how to implement them given the UI toolkits we have decided to
> use". Moving to different UI toolkits is a very, very, VERY tall hurdle. I
> can talk for hours about why (Bryan heard a really short version of that
> last week).
>
> Give me a day or so to take a hard look and can spin you guys up something
> cool
>
>
> Of course! We'd love to see it.
>
> Noob question i have right now is, can users log data only manually is it
> possible to do semi or fully automatically? This app reminds me of a
> snowboarding app i once had, does similar things going to look for some
> inspo there.
>
>
> You can manually enter dives. You can download from a simple dive computer
> and add more data manually. And you can download data from a sophisticated
> dive computer and get a lot of the information filled (e.g., a simple dive
> computer gives you no information about the gas use, a better one might
> include that).
>
> /D
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 5:53 PM Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Willem Ferguson <
>> willemferguson at zoology.up.ac.za> wrote:
>>
>> Attached a screenshot of a concept of rearranging the statistics tab. The
>> old design was not space efficient. This one provides all the information
>> in the statistics tab of the present master. Important thing is that it
>> frees a fairly large area at the bottom of the tab. The plan is to use this
>> for more detailed graphical analyses such as bar charts of continuous
>> variables and pie charts of categorical variables. The text box on the
>> right with gas consumption information gets a scroll bar when the tab is
>> made more narrow. Sometimes, with deco dives having 5 or 6 gases, the text
>> in the text box can exceed the depth of the  box. In this case a scroll bar
>> appears and allows viewing all the text.
>>
>> Would this be workable at all?
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm always sad when one of us comes up with an idea for the UI and there
>> are no comments at all.
>> There are several hundred people on this mailing list, most of whom I
>> think use the software. So it feels odd that no one would care.
>>
>> To me it looks less sophisticated. It looks very 1990-s :-)
>> Yes, definitely much more space efficient. But I really hope that we can
>> come up with something that is more attractive than this...
>>
>> Jordan, this is where someone with a design background might be extremely
>> welcome... but I don't want to put you on the spot :-) :-) :-)
>>
>> /D
>>
>> --
> Jordan Reiser
> Experience Designer @ SparksGrove, a Division of North Highland
>
> 973.930.3206
>
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>
> --
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