Subsurface 4.7 / 5.0

[Hartley Horwitz]

ok, thanks for clarifying the issues with using QML.  I'm really not
familiar with oo techniques, and as a unix user I'm using only regular
scripting languages (perl, tcl, python) but avoid the object oriented
enhancements mainly because I don't understand the paradigm.  I hadn't
understood that subsurface was mainly C and not C++.

Complex stuff keeping volunteers motivated.  I can appreciate the
challenge.  My comments on trying to keep your key developers motived to
contributing remain, although I hadn't realized that would mean sticking
with the existing infrastructure.

...Hartley Horwitz (h2sk1)

On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Dirk Hohndel <dirk at hohndel.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 01:03:06PM -0500, Hartley Horwitz wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately I'm not a coder, but in my experience keeping the
> > code easily maintainable is critical, particularly for a volunteer based
> > program.  If moving to Subsurface 5 results in a more unified environment
> > for desktop and mobile, then that seems like a great improvement for
> those
> > who maintain this fantastic tool.  I'm all for keeping those guys sane
> > because my contributions are so limited.
>
> Contributions can be many things. Translations. Documentation. Artwork.
> Proof-reading things. Finding bugs. Helping to figure out the right use
> cases.
>
> But I'll repeat my one caveat here. If "unification" meant that we use the
> infrastructure and tools that most of the developers use on both desktop
> and mobile, I'd be all over that.
>
> But the "unification" that Tomaz is proposing appears to push us more and
> more into the code that no one is comfortable working on - often not even
> Tomaz himself.
>
> That's what we have today. No one is working on the QML code. Joakim has
> tried a few times. I have killed myself over it. Sebas and Notmart were
> gracious enough to help us get started, but they are focused on other
> projects.
>
> We have several key developers who are somewhere between "HATE C++" and
> "rather write C code". The more we move to C++, the more we lose their
> support.
>
> /D
>
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